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Libre Cloud Services. Opendesktop.org is a libre platform providing free cloud storage, online office editing, contacts & calender tools, personal chat and messaging, as well as project development and product publishing to anyone who values freedom and openness. Opendesktop.org does not sell your data. Get a free account to enjoy true freedom with all the services: Products, Projects, Files, Calendar, Contacts, Direct Messages, Music, Chat, Forums, Maps, Social. What you get: (1) Protecting your privacy: state of the art end-to-end encryption ensures that private communication stays private; (2) Everything at your fingertips: register one account to have everything in one place; (3) Keep everything in sync: use CardDAV, CalDAV, WebDAV to sync your data to your favorite apps, devices and platform.

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31/05/2020

Okay maybe I was a bit too negative. I agree with these points and also give them 3 blocks 🙂

31/05/2020

Je dirais ceci:

1. Ils utilisent en effet google analytics et newrelic (celui-ci peut provenir de plugins / addons tiers). De nombreux sites Web utilisent ces derniers, ou du moins Google Analytics, pour suivre leurs visiteurs (parfois à des fins non lucratives). Donc, pour cela, je lui donnerais un 3.

2. Using Google Captcha can, at times, be necessary since it is perhaps the best anti-spam protection. They use it to get rid of spam. It is true that Google collects data about users through this, so I’d give them just 4 blocks for this since I find this as necessary to use at times.

3. La limitation Nextcloud de 5 Go est normale car vous ne pouvez pas donner gratuitement un espace de stockage illimité. Je ne considérerais cela comme un commerce que s'ils demandaient des devises ou autre chose afin d'obtenir cela ou d'étendre l'espace de stockage. Mais ils semblent donner la 5Gb à quiconque sans échange.

4. Les liens vers des réseaux sociaux comme Facebook ou Twitter sont problématiques pour diverses raisons, donc je leur donnerais 4 blocs pour cela, mais je ne considérerais pas cela comme un gros problème, surtout lorsque vous vous connectez simplement à ceux-ci et que vous n'utilisez pas leurs boutons contenant des trackers.

5. On Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDesktop.org#History I found that the company who owns them is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems and they say “According to Blue Systems employee Aurélien Gâteau, “Blue Systems does not have a business model, at least for now”.”

Dans l'ensemble, je considérerais cela comme sans commerce en général. Avec des mises en garde bien sûr.

31/05/2020

Well that’s a tricky one. On the website they use google analytics and have ads for their facebook and twitter account. These networks are trade-based. I registered an account and I had to verify to google that I’m not a robot via reCAPTCHA – google uses that of course to collect data about you so that’s another trade. After I verified my email I have access now to surprisingly a lot of services like files, calendar, maps (using openstreetmap.org) etc. – however privacy badger shows me a tracker called “cdn.pling.com” and “www.pling.com” and uBlock origin blocked “newrelic.com”. “New Relic is a San Francisco, California-based technology company which develops cloud-based software to help website and application owners track the performances of their services.” (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/New_Relic#/Products) It says to help track the performances of their servies, but I won’t trust them, because if you dig into they privacy policy, you will figure out they collect a shit ton of data about you and share it with 3rd parties and such: https://newrelic.com/termsandconditions/privacy New Relic is also a big corporation with a revenue of around 600 million dollar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Relic)

pling.com fait partie des services d'opendesktop.org et dispose également de Google Analytics et d'une nouvelle relique, il collecte donc également des données.

Let’s continue with opendesktop.org: when I click on one of these services like “files”, a nextcloud tab opens and after i logged in with the same username and password I have access to these services and and they seem to be trade-free, as there are no trackers or ads. However I have a limited amount of storage which is 5 gb. “Social” opens Mastodon which is trade-free, “Projects” opens opencode.net which seems to be trade-free – so all of these services are trade-free. They do not offer any premium or paid account, but the storage is limited to 5 gb – I don’t know if you can increase that and if you have to do something for doing that.

Donc, sur une note positive, vous avez accès à un tas de services, mais sur la note négative, vous devez échanger vos données pour y arriver pour les utiliser.

Framasoft (https://www.directory.trade-free.org/goods-services/framasoft/) seems to also provide you with the same services on their website and they also show you how you can install nextcloud: https://framacloud.org/fr/cultiver-son-jardin/nextcloud.html (yes unfortunately it’s in french…) and they do that without collecting your data.

All in all I am inclined to consider them as not trade-free with the argument of data collection. They can remove google-analytics, as it just serves to collect data about users. They could also remove the ads to facebook and twitter. And about that newrelic.com tracker – is also shady. And if the founder of opendesktop.org Karl Karlitscheck says “Privacy is the foundation of democracy” and that people should have a basic right “to control their own data in the Internet age.” – then he shouldn’t use google-analytics.

Enfin, j'ai trouvé la société derrière opendesktop.org qui s'appelle hive01: «h i v e 01 est un spécialiste du marketing Internet axé sur la publicité sur Internet comme moyen de vendre, distribuer et promouvoir des biens et services. Nous avons plusieurs années d'expérience dans le marketing Internet. Nos campagnes en ligne, nos publicités de liens textuels et nos services d'optimisation des moteurs de recherche sont la pierre angulaire de votre stratégie marketing Internet réussie. » http://hive01.com/advertising/

Dans l'ensemble: si nous voulons avoir un répertoire aussi libre de tout échange que possible, je n'ajouterais pas opendesktop.org - il existe des alternatives comme framasoft. Quelle est votre opinion sur opendesktop.org?

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